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Basketball-Reference.com Reboot

Posted by Justin Kubatko on January 14, 2008

Finally, after months and months of programming, I am pleased to announce the reboot of Basketball-Reference.com. What's new? I'm glad you asked:

  • Current season stats
    The stats will now be updated on a daily basis. Everything will be updated: player pages, team pages, league pages, leader pages, etc. (XML Team is providing the current season stats.)
  • Sortable tables
    Almost all of the stat tables are now sortable. Just click on the column headings with the red text to sort the tables. I think you'll find this feature to be incredibly useful. For example, you can now look at a player's game log and quickly find their highest-scoring game, the game where they had the most turnovers, etc. Most tables can also be converted to CSV (comma-seaprated values) and PRE (preformatted text) formats.
  • More leader boards
    Leader boards have been expanded to include season, career, active, yearly, and game leaders for the regular season and playoffs. (Game leaders are since the 1986-87 regular season and 1996 playoffs.)
  • More fun stuff
    See which players share your birthday, or which players attended high school in your home state, or which players attended your favorite college. Want to know who had a big game last night? Check out the daily leaders.

With all of this good comes a little bad, most of it temporary:

  • The Full Court tools (player stats search, player comparison machine, etc.) need to be modified, so they won't be working right for a few days. This is the first project on my to-do list for this week.
  • The WNBA, NBDL, and NCAAM sections are down temporarily, but they will be back shortly.
  • The similarity scores on the player pages will be gone for a bit, but they will return in time.
  • Some links have changed.

Given the enormity of this project, I'm sure that there are going to be some wrinkles that need to be ironed out. I've turned on commenting for this post, so if you have any comments or questions about the reboot, please post them here or use the site's feedback submission form.

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74 Responses to “Basketball-Reference.com Reboot”

  1. Adam Says:

    Hey there,

    I love the new look and believe that the sortable tables will be fantastic. I rely heavily on the information on this site to manage my collection of Jordan DVD games, so these new features are most welcomed.

    Can I please ask, when do you anticipate uploading Jordan's (see, the NBA's) game logs for the 84-85 and 85-85 seasons? I can not wait to see the full game logs from his rookie season.

    Above all, keep up the great work!

  2. dugger Says:

    yo now I can not rate everyone by a 82 game that needed to stay on

  3. dugger Says:

    Hello my name is Dugger and I just wanted to say you have been doing a great job. your page is the best. I was in process of making a list with everyone that played pro ball that had a 12.0 and up for points per game average for their career. I was useing the 82 game stat you had on the stat sheet. please add those stats back up

  4. pilight Says:

    Does this mean you'll have similarity scores for the WNBA when it's all done?

  5. J.R. Says:

    Nice overhaul, but where are the boxscores for the playoffs and finals?

  6. Nick Says:

    Big fan of the new look and new features. I use this site regularly for writing, and it is much more user-friendly now.

  7. Jwoey Says:

    Hooray! Great work! Very exciting stuff.

  8. Sean Says:

    I love it!

  9. Colin Says:

    Finally, my prayers have been answered. Thank you.

  10. Paco Says:

    Wow!! Simply fantastic!!

  11. KB Says:

    hey great job!!!
    have one request
    Can you bring back the sortable team stats?
    I remember being able to sort teams by best single season records and other categories just like player stats ...
    really liked that feeture
    keep up the good work
    thanks

  12. LakerFan Says:

    NICE!!!! GREATEST STATS SITE EVER!!!

  13. LakerFan Says:

    you need to fix the All-NBA teams under All-League by players.

    The titles are 1 space too much to the left. Kareem didnt have 15 1st team selections.

  14. TMSTAMP36 Says:

    Uhhh it looks nice, but the old one was better. You got rid of a lot of stuff like that Hall of Fame percentage/probability and other things that I really liked. You need to go back and do some work!!!!

  15. Shannon Says:

    Amazing. The current season stats are the major draw for me, but everything else is great. No need for me to go to ANY other website for NBA statistics.

  16. LakerFan Says:

    where is the player box search?? that needs to come back.

  17. Justin Kubatko Says:

    OK, let me try to answer some questions for you...

    Can I please ask, when do you anticipate uploading Jordan’s (see, the NBA’s) game logs for the 84-85 and 85-85 seasons? I can not wait to see the full game logs from his rookie season.

    I don't have a timetable for this at the moment.

    I was in process of making a list with everyone that played pro ball that had a 12.0 and up for points per game average for their career.

    Couldn't you just use the per game stats section to do that? It's right below the player totals.

    Does this mean you’ll have similarity scores for the WNBA when it’s all done?

    That wasn't in my plans, but once I do it for the men it should be relatively easy to do it for the women as well. I'll add that to my very long to-do list.

    Nice overhaul, but where are the boxscores for the playoffs and finals?

    They can be accessed from the playoff summary pages. For example, the 2007 NBA playoffs summary.

    Can you bring back the sortable team stats?

    In time, yes.

    you need to fix the All-NBA teams under All-League by players.

    The titles are 1 space too much to the left. Kareem didnt have 15 1st team selections.

    You're talking about this page, right? If so, I see Kareem with 15 total selections and 10 first team selections.

    Uhhh it looks nice, but the old one was better. You got rid of a lot of stuff like that Hall of Fame percentage/probability and other things that I really liked. You need to go back and do some work!!!!

    The Hall of Fame probability is still there, but it's been moved to the leader boards table on the player pages. What else is missing that you really liked?

    where is the player box search?? that needs to come back.

    It will. I was working on it today and it should be back up by Thursday, if not sooner.

  18. torogo Says:

    Hey I like what you have done with the site thus far. But one thing I liked that is missing, was when you looked at a player game logs you could check a players' season stats for any point in the season. Will that be coming back?

  19. mo Says:

    What about the similar seasons? Please bring back that feature.

  20. Ben Says:

    Great reboot, much appreciated! Keep up the good work!
    One question though - do you have any plans to add the boxscores of the 1991 Playoffs in the future?
    I'm desperately trying to find the boxscores for the ECF between the Bulls and the Pistons...

  21. Jon Says:

    Arrggghhh! Playoff game logs! Please put them back! Unless they've moved and I can't find the link... Otherwise, pretty good. Older game logs in general would be great, I like that the page format can be changed, to me biggest improvement is dynamic in-season stats. But, playoff game logs! Did I mention that?

  22. Jon Says:

    Also, nice job on being able to show/hide partial seasons. A way to sort international players and other "no college" players would be great, as well as more complete college stats.

  23. Aaron Says:

    Nice work Justin. Congrats on releasing the reboot!

    -Aaron

  24. danmajerle19 Says:

    Here is something Adam should appreciate :
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    Enjoy

  25. LakerFan Says:

    The column headers aren't letting you sort yet.

  26. drew Says:

    looks great, liking the format.
    one anxious question?
    where's the player comparison link?
    with the head to head etc?
    I loved looking up 4 similar players and comparing their careers all at once and at any age.
    was a huge resource tool for me.
    the head2head was great too
    am I blind? if not will it be back?

  27. Justin Kubatko Says:

    Some more replies...

    Hey I like what you have done with the site thus far. But one thing I liked that is missing, was when you looked at a player game logs you could check a players’ season stats for any point in the season. Will that be coming back?

    Yes, it will be.

    What about the similar seasons? Please bring back that feature.

    Yes, similarity scores will return.

    One question though - do you have any plans to add the boxscores of the 1991 Playoffs in the future?

    I would very much like to, but I need to find a reliable data source. If you know of one, please let me know.

    Arrggghhh! Playoff game logs! Please put them back!

    They'll be back.

    The column headers aren’t letting you sort yet.

    Make sure javascript is turned on in your browser. I have checked it on several OS/browser combinations, but if you still have problems with it then let me know what OS and browser (version, too) you are using.

    one anxious question?
    where’s the player comparison link?
    with the head to head etc?

    The Full Court tools will be back, they just need to be modified. I released the Player Game Log Finder this evening. Let me know what you think about it.

    I appreciate all of the kind words and questions. I'll do my best to get everything done in a timely manner. Thanks for your patience.

  28. akg Says:

    old one was better. Player box search, playoff games and finals are missing

  29. Jon Says:

    Thanks for assuring us that all these features will return. Thumbs up on including shooting percentages in "totals" and "per game" tables rather than "advanced". Much more convenient, and zero-values don't screw up the formatting, which is a detail some data-admins ignore. Older game logs/box scores would be great, but it's understood that reliable sources are hard to come by.

  30. Drew Says:

    thanks for the reply, your hard work is appreciated!

  31. Chris Says:

    Love it! I don't have to rely on KnickerBlogger's current season advanced stats anymore, which weren't accurate anyway.

    Is it possible to quickly see a player's averages over a certain stretch of games in a season? For example, Michael Jordan's stretch in 1989 during which he had 10+ triple doubles.

    And I also see the All-League selection column titles pushed one column too far to the left. On my screen the first column says Total Selections with the players listed under it (it says "Player" above that, outside of the table)

  32. Sean Says:

    I hope that you will reinsert the coding to show cumulative seasonal averages through the given number of games played. I assume that you're trying to find a way to add cumulative career averages (like on baseball reference dot com) through those games, as well?

  33. Stan Says:

    What a surprise to go to your site one day (on my daily visits) and suddenly see massive, sweeping changes. Even better: they clean everything up and make everything neater and more organized. I haven't utilized the sortable tables, yet, but the Convert to CSV is much appreciated.

    Was this change brought on more to update the appearance or to change functionality? Were there any DB updates as well as these site updates? I'd love to hear the reasons.

    Finally, are there any new functionalities that have been implemented along with this change besides the Conversion to CSV/PRE and sortable tables?

    Damn, I'm jealous of this site! Thanks for all your hard work.

  34. Brian Says:

    Justin,

    I mostly like the new format, but you have hurt the utility of the leaderboards. They are more useful and convenient with the total and per game numbers adjacent. Otherwise (with some further changes that you noted above): magnifique!

  35. Justin Kubatko Says:

    Hey I like what you have done with the site thus far. But one thing I liked that is missing, was when you looked at a player game logs you could check a players’ season stats for any point in the season. Will that be coming back?

    This should be working now. Try it out and let me know what you think.

  36. Justin Kubatko Says:

    More replies...

    old one was better. Player box search, playoff games and finals are missing

    The Player Game Log Finder has replaced the old box scores search. Playoff game results with links to the box scores (when available) can be found on these pages.

    Is it possible to quickly see a player’s averages over a certain stretch of games in a season? For example, Michael Jordan’s stretch in 1989 during which he had 10+ triple doubles.

    Not right now, no.

    And I also see the All-League selection column titles pushed one column too far to the left. On my screen the first column says Total Selections with the players listed under it (it says “Player” above that, outside of the table)

    I don't know what's going on. I don't see it on the five different OS/browser combinations I have tried. Can you take a screenshot and e-mail it to me? Let me know what OS and browser you are using too.

    I hope that you will reinsert the coding to show cumulative seasonal averages through the given number of games played. I assume that you’re trying to find a way to add cumulative career averages (like on baseball reference dot com) through those games, as well?

    Seasonal totals are done (see comment #35). Career totals on the to-do list.

    Was this change brought on more to update the appearance or to change functionality? Were there any DB updates as well as these site updates? I’d love to hear the reasons.

    The main reason was because we wanted the Sports Reference sites to use the same set of tools (mainly Perl and MySQL) and I was not using those for everything. It was also a good opportunity to clean up the site and add stuff like sortable tables, etc.

    Finally, are there any new functionalities that have been implemented along with this change besides the Conversion to CSV/PRE and sortable tables?

    I think I have mentioned them, but this site is so big that sometimes I forget everything you can do.

  37. LakerFan Says:

    The selcections column is fixed now. THATN YOU for the gamelog finder, thats the best tool on this site!!

  38. Justin Kubatko Says:

    And I also see the All-League selection column titles pushed one column too far to the left. On my screen the first column says Total Selections with the players listed under it (it says “Player” above that, outside of the table)

    A-ha! I found the problem. Try it now.

  39. LakerFan Says:

    it is perfect now. One last question, how can i search a single player in the gamelog finder? When i click on it it only lets me search the team. Thanks

  40. Seth Says:

    How is the NDBL section going to be changed? Will more biographical information be available for these players?

    Love the new look. It has done more than anything to rekindle my interest in pro hoops!

  41. Travis Says:

    I didn't mind the old look at all; I tend to enjoy simple-looking pages and whatnot. That said, the new layout is very clean and easy to browse, certainly done well. I do miss the player wins and losses, though, as well as the league average O and D ratings. Any chance of those coming back?

  42. LakerFan Says:

    how can i search a single player in the gamelog finder? When i click on it it only lets me search the team

  43. Justin Kubatko Says:

    Some more replies...

    One last question, how can i search a single player in the gamelog finder? When i click on it it only lets me search the team.

    I have modified the game log finder to allow single-player searches. After the pages are updated tomorrow morning, you should see a "Finder" link at the top of each player page (where the game log and splits links are). This will allow you to do a search for a particular player.

    How is the NDBL section going to be changed? Will more biographical information be available for these players?

    The NBDL section will have sortable tables like the other sections of the site. Unfortunately, I don't have more biographical info for these players.

    I do miss the player wins and losses, though, as well as the league average O and D ratings. Any chance of those coming back?

    The Player Wins and Player Losses probably won't be back since I have Win Shares and Loss Shares. I'll think about adding the league rating to the table.

  44. Colin Says:

    Forget about all the whiners. If some of these people were given a million dollars, they would still whine about it not being a million and one. You have done an incredible job with the website.

    One question:

    Do you plan on, at any time, adding the transaction (trades, signings, etc.) data for each of the players?

  45. Dr. Snugglers Says:

    I like the new layout.
    But I can't find the Coach Statistics. Not the individual ones, but most games won etc. Where are they?

  46. Seth Says:

    "The NBDL section will have sortable tables like the other sections of the site. Unfortunately, I don’t have more biographical info for these players."

    Is there something that a person like me can do to help collect this information for the site? You've put so much work into this place I'd love to lend a (small) helping hand!

  47. Chris Says:

    It's great. Love the daily updates and the multiple file formats.

    Are the missing options going to come back?

  48. Dino Says:

    I can't wait until the Full Court tools return.

    Great site, guys.

  49. Justin Kubatko Says:

    I owe you some replies...

    Do you plan on, at any time, adding the transaction (trades, signings, etc.) data for each of the players?

    I would very much like to, but as you can imagine this would be a huge project. It's something we are looking into.

    But I can’t find the Coach Statistics. Not the individual ones, but most games won etc. Where are they?

    Darn, I forgot the coaching leaders. I'll get them back up there in the coming weeks.

    Is there something that a person like me can do to help collect [NBDL biographical] information for the site? You’ve put so much work into this place I’d love to lend a (small) helping hand!

    That would be great. Send me a note through the feedback system.

    Are the missing options going to come back?

    Yes, most of them will be back.

  50. Chris Walton Says:

    Fabulous! Just what I've been waiting for. I can't wait to see the site evolve just like the baseball version has.

  51. Kevin Says:

    Is the data available for download for personal analysis like at baseball and football reference?

  52. Justin Kubatko Says:

    Is the data available for download for personal analysis like at baseball and football reference?

    No, it's not. I'm sorry about that.

  53. Chris Says:

    Why did you use PER 36 minutes instead of 40 when Player Efficiency Rating is based on 40 minutes?

  54. Sean Says:

    I assume that the individual player game logs for playoff runs will reappear eventually?

  55. ronan Says:

    the new look is great, but I can't wait for boxscores/game logs prior to 86-87, this is still the most important part of this website, more than the (very usefull !) tools you're creating !

  56. Jared Wade Says:

    Looks great.

    Only problem I've found is that the Franchise Indexes no longer tell us how far the team went in the Playoffs each year. Having the info of "Lost in First Round," "Lost in ECF" or "Won NBA Finals" right there for every year was a great feature and amazingly convenient for checking how a team has done over the past few years. I like that you added the top scorer/rebounder/coach/etc, but Can we get this other vital info back?

  57. Justin Kubatko Says:

    Why did you use PER 36 minutes instead of 40 when Player Efficiency Rating is based on 40 minutes?

    Two comments: (1) PER is not based on 40 minutes per game and (2) I can't win here. You prefer per-40 to per-36, someone else prefers it the other way around, someone else wants per-48, etc. This is just a way to display the player's per minute production, so the multiplier is in some sense arbitrary. We can expect a solid starter to play about 36 minutes per game. That seems to me to be a reasonable standard.

    I assume that the individual player game logs for playoff runs will reappear eventually?

    Yes.

    the new look is great, but I can’t wait for boxscores/game logs prior to 86-87, this is still the most important part of this website, more than the (very usefull !) tools you’re creating !

    I'm not sure when we might have data prior to 1986-87. I had a hard enough time putting the 1986-87 through 1990-91 seasons together.

    Only problem I’ve found is that the Franchise Indexes no longer tell us how far the team went in the Playoffs each year.

    Yeah, a couple of people have mentioned that. I'll try to get that back on there soon.

  58. JE Yaranon Says:

    best basketball archive website..

  59. Bubba Says:

    Hi, I liked how you fixed the ordering of teams based on which team has home court. However, you have the ordering backwards now. The home team is always supposed to come second, on the right side, or on the bottom half of a line score.

  60. Josh Says:

    love the new look. i used to use databasebasketball.com, but you guys are far superior to them now. keep it up

  61. Justin Kubatko Says:

    Hi, I liked how you fixed the ordering of teams based on which team has home court. However, you have the ordering backwards now. The home team is always supposed to come second, on the right side, or on the bottom half of a line score.

    Are you talking about thse pages?

    best basketball archive website..

    Thank you...

    love the new look. i used to use databasebasketball.com, but you guys are far superior to them now. keep it up

    ...and thank you too.

  62. Bubba Says:

    Yes, well, when I noticed the difference I was actually looking at some of the playoffs sections. Like the 1996 section, for instance, the Bulls of course had home court advantage in every series, and for their home games, they are listed first instead of second on the line. But it is this way with all games I have looked at; the home team is listed first when it should be second to be proper.

  63. Kal Rucker Says:

    Love it! Your site keeps getting better and better.

  64. Raejon Says:

    I think what the poster earlier was referring to in regards to the home/visitor placement was in regards to the box scores, where the home teams stats is supposed to be listed in the bottom half, etc.

  65. Sean Says:

    This is nitpicking, but I just wanted to know if the All-Star game MVP information is going to return. Other than that, I think the reboot is great.

  66. James Says:

    Hey, I'd like to say that I think that the stats you list for each Finals MVP should be that player's stats in the Finals series, not his stats during the regular season. I realize you can't do this for the older playoffs yet, but maybe you could at least change them to the players' playoff stats for that year, and for 1996 onwards they can be changed to his Finals averages. thanks.

  67. Justin Kubatko Says:

    This is nitpicking, but I just wanted to know if the All-Star game MVP information is going to return. Other than that, I think the reboot is great.

    All-Star Game MVP's are listed here. Or are you talking about listing them somewhere else?

    Hey, I’d like to say that I think that the stats you list for each Finals MVP should be that player’s stats in the Finals series, not his stats during the regular season.

    Can you please tell me what page(s) you are referring to?

  68. James Says:

    Oh, I'm sorry, I saw those stat lines on the old website format, and I guess they've been changed. They used to be posted on league summary pages next to the award winner. Thanks.

  69. Sean Says:

    "All-Star Game MVP’s are listed here. Or are you talking about listing them somewhere else?"

    Oh, okay. Yeah, I was thinking about under the "Awards" section for the players that have won one. But whatever. It's a minor detail.

  70. Nyeme Wilson Says:

    I miss the player comparison feature, and the season summary "Lost in WCF" Overall it's good though.

  71. David Says:

    I just want to thank you for some outstanding work on BBR. The new, clean look is so much easier to read, and I'm patiently looking forward to the return of other features such as the HoF monitors and career comparisons. I love the site and use it several times per week during the NBA season.

  72. Justin Kubatko Says:

    FYI, the replacement for the old stats search is up:

    Player Season Finder

  73. wstander Says:

    I thought this site was amazing when you first got started, and it just gets better and better. I can't remember now who tipped me to look up the link (it may possibly have been Kaufmann, the sports writer at Salon.com), but I am eternally grateful that I found you. For the price (free) to me as a user, it is flat out unbelievable. I decided to do my small part by sponsoring a page. I have always been reluctant to use PayPal, but I felt confident using the Amazon.com method and it worked fine.

  74. Justin Kubatko Says:

    I'm going to shut off comments on this post, as the spammers are starting to hit it hard. I appreciate all of the kind words and suggestions. If you have anything that you would like to add, please fill out the feedback form.