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Ariza-Artest

Posted by Neil Paine on March 31, 2010

Trevor Ariza in Ron Artest's old role:

Player Yr Tm G Min ORtg %Pos DRtg Floor% Stops Stop% SPM DPA
Trevor Ariza 2010 HOU 64 2360 97.3 21.2 105.7 0.436 491.8 0.534 1.53 0.77
Ron Artest 2009 HOU 69 2452 104.1 23.7 103.4 0.458 483.7 0.525 3.43 0.73
Player Yr Tm T/Min %Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
Trevor Ariza 2010 HOU 1.11 53 34 7 5
Ron Artest 2009 HOU 1.14 49 38 8 5
Player Yr Tm MPG P/36 2P% 3P% FT% TS% qAst %FGA FTr 3Ptd
Trevor Ariza 2010 HOU 36.9 14.4 42.7 32.1 65.7 47.6 55.6% 22.2% 22.4 40.0
Ron Artest 2009 HOU 35.5 17.6 40.2 39.9 74.8 51.2 55.7% 25.7% 25.3 36.9
Player Yr Tm AsR ToR PPR OR% DR% Blk% Stl%
Trevor Ariza 2010 HOU 16.3 14.6 0.76 3.1 14.5 1.0 2.5
Ron Artest 2009 HOU 16.2 12.8 0.52 3.2 13.4 0.7 2.3

Ron Artest in Trevor Ariza's old role:

Player Yr Tm G Min ORtg %Pos DRtg Floor% Stops Stop% SPM DPA
Ron Artest 2010 LAL 69 2363 106.2 16.3 104.3 0.476 449.7 0.490 0.94 0.75
Trevor Ariza 2009 LAL 82 1998 112.4 16.7 102.2 0.520 450.4 0.574 3.20 1.78
Player Yr Tm T/Min %Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
Ron Artest 2010 LAL 0.90 57 31 7 5
Trevor Ariza 2009 LAL 0.82 51 35 9 5
Player Yr Tm MPG P/36 2P% 3P% FT% TS% qAst %FGA FTr 3Ptd
Ron Artest 2010 LAL 34.2 11.7 45.5 36.3 67.3 51.9 53.1% 16.3% 25.6 40.0
Trevor Ariza 2009 LAL 24.4 12.8 52.6 31.9 71.0 54.4 59.7% 16.9% 28.4 32.0
Player Yr Tm AsR ToR PPR OR% DR% Blk% Stl%
Ron Artest 2010 LAL 12.7 14.8 1.09 4.4 9.8 0.7 2.2
Trevor Ariza 2009 LAL 10.4 13.3 0.48 6.4 13.5 0.9 3.5

Conclusions? They both left roles they were better suited for and went to roles they're not a terrific fit in. Ariza is much better at his old role (and Artest's current one) than Artest is. Artest is much better at his old role (and Ariza's current one) than Ariza is.

In other words, everything we thought was true last summer... Turned out to be true.

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4 Responses to “Ariza-Artest”

  1. Alvy Says:

    Tsk Tsk

  2. Chronz Says:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/britt_robson/03/30/artest.lakers/
    Artest move a positive for Lakers -- and the best is yet to come

    Story Highlights
    Stats don't support claim that Ron Artest is worse fit for Lakers than Trevor Ariza
    Artest is taking fewer shots and has cut down on turnovers in first season in L.A.
    The Lakers will get a big payoff from the physical forward in grind-it-out playoffs

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I smell a storm a brewing

  3. Greg Says:

    I think Ariza in HOU should get an incomplete. He was acquired for his skill set, which is maximized in systems with at least one big man. Since Yao has been out all year I don't think its fair to judge Ariza on what's happened this year.

  4. Alex Says:

    Of course its fair, we already know what Ariza can do in a limited role now we know how he performs as a forced 1st option. How do his stats look alongside Kevin Martin? Im sure they are much closer to what he did in La. Overall Id say Ariza is the better player regardless. Championship caliber role players are more valuable than go to guys who are so inefficient that they cant lead you anywhere worth mentioning