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Trade Partners

Posted by Justin Kubatko on August 26, 2011

This is just a quick post to let you know that I have added a Trade Partners script to the Frivolities section of the site. Simply select two franchises from the search form and you can see:

  • all of the trades between the two franchises;
  • the statistics for each player on their "old" and "new" teams; and
  • a summary of the number of Win Shares coming and going in the deal.

I hope you enjoy this new feature, and as always please contact us should you have any comments or questions.

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11 Responses to “Trade Partners”

  1. Imadogg Says:

    You guys are amazing, but you already knew that

  2. yeontura Says:

    ?: Who were the best players in the NBA to never appear in the postseason? Tnx

  3. Will Says:

    Yeontura,

    Odd place to put an off-topic question, but it made me really think. Shareef Abdur-Raheem, Steve Francis, and Corey Magette all would be close; they only appeared in 1 playoff series in their careers.

    Troy Murphy has only played in one playoff game.

  4. Math2 Says:

    That is really cool....

  5. Math2 Says:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/trades.cgi?f1=NYK&f2=MIA

    What's up with that?

  6. Downpuppy Says:

    Kind of fun, especially with all the draft pick trades. eg:

    February 24, 2005: The Boston Celtics traded Jiri Welsch to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a 2007 1st round draft pick (Rudy Fernandez).

    w/ Previous Team w/ New Team
    Player Tm G PTS TRB AST WS WS/48 Tm G PTS TRB AST WS WS/48
    Jiri Welsch BOS 136 8.5 3.2 2.0 5.6 0.081 CLE 16 2.9 1.8 1.2 -0.3 -0.064
    Rudy Fernandez CLE BOS

    Boston traded 5.6 past WS for 0.0 future WS.
    Cleveland traded 0.0 past WS for -0.3 future WS.

    Sounds like nothing? Well, no. Rudy gets 0, of course, because that pick was traded for a guy who was traded 4 times before he ever played a game:

    August 6, 2004: Traded by the Los Angeles Lakers (as a 2006 1st round draft pick) with Rick Fox and Gary Payton to the Boston Celtics for Chucky Atkins, Jumaine Jones and Chris Mihm.

    February 24, 2005: Traded by the Boston Celtics (as a 2006 1st round draft pick) with Tom Gugliotta, Gary Payton and Michael Stewart to the Atlanta Hawks for Antoine Walker.

    August 19, 2005: Traded by the Atlanta Hawks (as a 2006 1st round draft pick) with Boris Diaw and a 2008 1st round draft pick (Robin Lopez) to the Phoenix Suns for Joe Johnson.

    June 28, 2006: Drafted by the Phoenix Suns in the 1st round (21st pick) of the 2006 NBA Draft.

    June 28, 2006: Traded by the Phoenix Suns with Brian Grant to the Boston Celtics for a 2007 1st round draft pick (Rudy Fernandez).

    Which is why tracing trade outcomes is in Frivolities.

  7. benji Says:

    Math2,

    The draft pick was sent to the Knicks as compensation for signing Riley, the Knicks accused the Heat of tampering with Riley since he was still under contract.

  8. JeremyD Says:

    Was noticing that the matrix is not symmetrical. Utah-Washington, Lakers-Rockets. Then realized it was due to 3 (or more) team deals. Took a moment to realize why. Thanks. Carry on.

  9. Mike G Says:

    Not sure what's the relevance of stats "w/ previous team". It's the player's Future WS/etc that represent his value in the trade.
    And that is true whether the guy plays 1 game with his new team -- Rasheed for Atl in '04 -- or many years.

    I'd rather see his total career stats before and after a trade, but mostly just after.

  10. Mike G Says:

    For example: The Portland Trail Blazers traded Moses Malone to the Buffalo Braves for a 1978 1st round draft pick (Rick Robey).
    Portland traded 0.0 past WS for 0.0 future WS.
    Buffalo traded 0.0 past WS for 0.0 future WS.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/trades.cgi?f1=LAC&f2=POR

    This doesn't tell us much.
    We can track down the links and find that Portland gave up 167 regular season WS and 14 playoff WS, to get a guy who would bring 16.5 total WS, for other teams.

    With a few tweaks, this could be a valuable feature, and not just a Frivolity.

  11. wypadek uk Says:

    I agree to you.