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  Tale of the Tape
  Jim Brewer Jim Cleamons
Pos F-C G
Height 6-9 6-3
Weight 210 185
Draft 1973 (2nd) 1971 (13th)
Debut Oct 12, 1973 Oct 15, 1971
Years 9 9
All-Star 0 0
All-NBA 0 0
All-Def 2 (0/2) 1 (0/1)
MVP 0 0
Champ 1 1
HoF No No
Adjusted Win Shares*
(Best → Worst)
Rk Jim Brewer Jim Cleamons
1 7.9 7.1
2 5.8 5.5
3 4.4 3.8
4 2.6 3.4
5 2.2 2.7
6 2.0 2.6
7 1.8 2.3
8 1.3 1.7
9 1.3 0.1
Wt Sum** 25.7 25.5

* Adjusted for schedule length
** 1 × best + 0.95 × 2nd-best + …

  Regular Season
  Jim Brewer Jim Cleamons
G 703 652
MP 15936 16994
PTS 4099 5412
TRB 4458 1981
AST 1038 2531
STL 556 533
BLK 510 120
TOV 332 364
 Per Game
MP 22.7 26.1
PTS 5.8 8.3
TRB 6.3 3.0
AST 1.5 3.9
STL 0.8 1.0
BLK 0.7 0.2
TOV 0.9 1.5
 Shooting
FG% .448 .460
3P% .077 .226
eFG% .448 .461
FT% .571 .765
TS% .467 .501
 Advanced
PER 12.2 12.6
TRB% 14.6 6.0
AST% 8.5 19.6
STL% 1.6 1.6
BLK% 1.7 0.4
TOV% 19.4 17.4
USG% 10.5 13.1
ORtg
DRtg
OWS 8.4 16.4
DWS 20.9 12.7
WS 29.3 29.1
WS/48 .088 .082

123 ≡ incomplete data

  Playoffs
  Jim Brewer Jim Cleamons
G 31 27
MP 742 667
PTS 164 221
TRB 204 89
AST 49 89
STL 24 12
BLK 24 3
TOV 5 9
 Per Game
MP 23.9 24.7
PTS 5.3 8.2
TRB 6.6 3.3
AST 1.6 3.3
STL 0.8 0.6
BLK 0.8 0.1
TOV 0.3 1.1
 Shooting
FG% .469 .396
3P%
eFG% .469 .396
FT% .519 .848
TS% .486 .442
 Advanced
PER 12.5 11.7
TRB% 14.4 7.0
AST% 9.2 19.4
STL% 1.6 0.9
BLK% 1.8 0.3
TOV% 20.7 17.8
USG% 7.1 13.1
ORtg
DRtg
OWS 0.5 0.2
DWS 1.3 0.6
WS 1.8 0.8
WS/48 .115 .057

123 ≡ incomplete data