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This is a community-based project with the goal of rating the best players in NBA history. In the matchup below, choose the player who you believe was the better player. It is up to you to determine how much weight to give to offense versus defense, peak value versus career value, regular season versus playoffs, etc.

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2. Larry Bird (2174)
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5. Bill Russell (2075)
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1. Tim Duncan (2033)
2. LeBron James (2019)
3. Kevin Garnett (2009)
4. Kevin Durant (2002)
5. Paul Pierce (1979)

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Who's Better: or ? Skip

  Tale of the Tape
  Fred Brown Arnie Risen
Pos G C-F
Height 6-3 6-9
Weight 182 200
Draft 1971 (6th)
Debut Oct 12, 1971 Nov 6, 1948
Years 13 10
All-Star 1 4
All-NBA 0 1 (0/1/0)
All-Def 0 0
MVP 0 0
Champ 1 2
HoF No Yes
Adjusted Win Shares*
(Best → Worst)
Rk Fred Brown Arnie Risen
1 8.8 14.4
2 7.9 11.2
3 6.7 8.9
4 6.4 8.5
5 6.1 6.8
6 5.2 5.6
7 5.2 4.4
8 4.9 3.1
9 3.9 3.0
10 3.6 2.0
11 2.8
12 2.6
13 -0.9
Wt Sum** 49.9 57.9

* Adjusted for schedule length
** 1 × best + 0.95 × 2nd-best + …

  Regular Season
  Fred Brown Arnie Risen
G 963 637
MP 24422 12690
PTS 14018 7633
TRB 2637 5011
AST 3160 1058
STL 1149
BLK 166
TOV 840
 Per Game
MP 25.4 28.3
PTS 14.6 12.0
TRB 2.7 9.7
AST 3.3 1.7
STL 1.4
BLK 0.2
TOV 1.6
 Shooting
FG% .478 .381
3P% .373
eFG% .482 .381
FT% .858 .699
TS% .518 .456
 Advanced
PER 17.7 16.6
TRB% 5.5
AST% 20.2
STL% 2.4
BLK% 0.4
TOV% 11.6
USG% 24.2
ORtg 107
DRtg 101
OWS 38.8 32.4
DWS 24.4 23.6
WS 63.2 56.0
WS/48 .124 .119

123 ≡ incomplete data

  Playoffs
  Fred Brown Arnie Risen
G 83 61
MP 1900 1023
PTS 1197 790
TRB 196 561
AST 193 86
STL 74
BLK 8
TOV 82
 Per Game
MP 22.9 25.0
PTS 14.4 13.0
TRB 2.4 10.2
AST 2.3 1.4
STL 0.9
BLK 0.1
TOV 1.2
 Shooting
FG% .461 .385
3P% .310
eFG% .467 .385
FT% .819 .677
TS% .506 .462
 Advanced
PER 18.7 16.9
TRB% 5.5
AST% 17.7 7.4
STL% 1.9
BLK% 0.2
TOV% 8.6
USG% 27.6
ORtg 106
DRtg 105
OWS 3.6 2.8
DWS 1.3 3.3
WS 5.0 6.1
WS/48 .126 .143

123 ≡ incomplete data