Comments on: Layups: Dennis Johnson Elected to Hall of Fame http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: BobDD http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-18796 Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:22:27 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-18796 It might be 50/50 from posters, but readers not from Boston know this is nothing but a payoff to the Celtic Mafia.

Where do you turn off the sarc button? No, no, I meant the honesty button.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-18123 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:23:39 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-18123 Against good teams, they were 18-2.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-18122 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:23:23 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-18122 The Celtics were notorious for getting bored in games. In one game Bird took all his shots left-handed.

]]> By: sp6r=underrated http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15962 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:58:00 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15962 Lakers 04: two of the members, Malone and Payton got in primarily for their contributions elsewhere. Not the case with the mid 80s celtics, who have 4 people being inducted primarily for their role on those teams.
Showtime: from 83-85, their 4th HOF WAS Mac who got in primarily for his MVP years in the 70s. Worthy is as much a joke as DJ's induction was

]]> By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15860 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:39:39 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15860 I don't mean to keep harping on SRS, because I do think it's a valuable form of evaluating a team. But if we're going to judge the Celtics of the 80's by that measure, then I think it's only fair to do the same for the Lakers.

1983: 4 Hall of Famers, 5.06 SRS (3rd in the league)
1984: 4 Hall of Famers, 3.32 SRS (5th in the league)
1985: 4 Hall of Famers, 6.48 SRS (2nd in the league)
1986: 3 Hall of Famers, 6.84 SRS (3rd in the league)
1987: 3 Hall of Famers, 8.32 SRS (1st in the league)
1988: 3 Hall of Famers, 4.81 SRS (3rd in the league)
1989: 3 Hall of Famers, 6.38 SRS (3rd in the league)

Gee, I'm beginning to think there's no direct correlation between the number of Hall of Famers on a team and said team's SRS rating.

]]> By: Sean http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15859 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:12:10 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15859 Because, frankly, the SRS point differential totals are irrelevant. Four straight championship appearances, two titles: those stats are far more meaningful to me than SRS.
And by the way, the Celtics had the best SRS ratings in '84, '86, and '88 (they were essentially tied for second in '85 and were third in '87).

If we're going by your logic, then the Lakers in '04 truly didn't have four legit Hall of Famers. I mean, they didn't win the championship and were ranked 7th in SRS. There's absolutely no way Shaq, Kobe, Payton, and Malone could all be Hall of Famers if that team didn't absolutely crush the league, right?

Basketball isn't baseball. Not everything is quantifiable. Advanced stats are awesome, but they don't tell the whole story.

]]> By: sp6r=underrated http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15858 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:25:38 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15858 Why don't you actually address my argument and explain why their RS point differential totals was so low for a team with 4 HOF?

Anon

Nice response.

]]> By: ScottR. http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15855 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:06:28 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15855 The 80s Celtics as underachievers?! Well, lets see. From 80-81 to 86-87 they were in the NBA Finals 5 times in 7 years, winning three. With their true "4 HOFer line up" which ran from 83-84 to 87-88, they were in Finals 4 times in 5 years, winning two; beaten, of course, by an equally talented Laker squad with three legitimate HOFers, and two of the greatest players ever in Magic and Kareem.

I guess you could say they should have one more than just two championships with 4 HOFers in the lineup--and I'd agree accept for the fact the Lakers were an equally worthy adversary.

]]> By: Anon http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15853 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:34:00 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15853 Gus Williams WAS the best player on that Sonics team; he was 2nd during the regular season for the Sonics in WS, and he led the team in WS in the playoffs. For his career, he was actually a pretty good regular season player, and stepped up his play to another level for the playoffs.

The only problem for him was that unlike DJ, he didn't land himself on a mythical team like the Boston Celtics. Gus played most of his career in Seattle and finished it out in Washington.

]]> By: Mike G http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163&cpage=1#comment-15851 Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:51:13 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=5163#comment-15851 " its very interesting, that on a stat website, not one DJ supporter has even tried to make a statistical case for DJ being in the HOF."

- How many guys have more career points, rebounds, assists, and blocks than DJ?

- Pippen, Jordan, Bird, and Drexler; possibly Oscar and Havlicek.

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