Comments on: Pierce, Nowitzki and Other Single-Team Lifers http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804 NBA & ABA Basketball Statistics & History Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Jared Ras http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19897 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:26:38 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19897 Maybe it's just me and how I feel about regular season and playoff stats being segregated (I understand it because "games" should be out of 82 team games played for each team, not anywhere from 82 to 110 after factoring the postseason), but lists like this seem conducive to combining the regular season and playoffs.

So Kobe Bryant has 1,021 regular season Lakers games, but he also played for the Lakers in the postseason, of which he has amassed 198 more games. His 1,219 total games may put him higher on the list, especially since Hal Greer only has 1,214 (1,122 + 92) for the Nationals/76ers. If you're actually looking at total games played, the Kobe Bryant-Los Angeles Lakers or Tim Duncan-San Antonio Spurs marriages are much more amazing for considering those championships.

I wouldn't change the method or anything, and I know it's easier to look up stats for regular season games only, but that's just my piece on how games should be counted.

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By: Drew Grant http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19854 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:21:26 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19854 Even Rik Smits was better than most of the centers now.

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By: Drew Grant http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19853 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:20:15 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19853 I miss the good o'days when there was more than one good big man. Thinking back to the mid-late 90's Ewing, Robinson, Mourning, O'Neal, Olajuwon, and Mutombo days. Seeing Robinson, Olajuwon, and Ewing on this post made me remember.

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By: MJT75 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19852 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:45:13 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19852 Yes, and we should block out Jordan's Wizards years as well.....

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By: Kirk http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19846 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:08:58 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19846 I think all of us have blocked out Hakeem's year with Toronto, or Ewing with Seatle/Orlando, and even Pippen's return to Chicago. But that brings up an interesting point: guys like TD, Kobe, Dirk and Pierce could fall *off* of this list should they leave their teams in the future. They'd still be near or at the top of the franchise records, but "lifer" status can easily be derailed.

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By: Spree http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19845 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:52:39 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19845 This seems to happen more in basketball than the other two big sports. I think it's great to see a guy play his whole career for one squad.

I'm stunned that Hakeem isn't on that list anywhere. I was certain he played his whole career with Houston and would make such a list.

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By: Kirk http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19841 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:45:47 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19841 The big 4 on these lists also have played a ton of playoff games too. TD, Kobe and Dirk are all franchise leaders in playoff games, most likely padding their lead in the near future. Pierce will have to make deep runs in the playoffs for quite a few years to make it to the top of the Celtics list.

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19837 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:03:56 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19837 For what it's worth, Kobe does have a higher career SPM than Dirk, +5.53 to +5.11. So there's at least one metric looking out for you, Kobe.

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By: Neil Paine http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19836 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:00:21 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19836 Ha, yeah, that must be it.

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By: Ben http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804&cpage=1#comment-19835 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:59:21 +0000 http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6804#comment-19835 Neil just posted this because Dirk is ahead of Kobe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just kidding - keep up the great posts.

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